Accepted guess Not a possible answer C tier for first-turn info

FOGEY

FOGEY is accepted as a guess but is not on the solver's possible-answer list.

Meaning and pronunciation

Pronunciation: /ˈfoʊɡi//ˈfəʊɡi/

Noun

A dull person (especially an old man) who is behind the times, holding antiquated, over-conservative views.

Alternative forms: fogy, fogie

Source: Wiktionary contributors · CC BY-SA 4.0. Corrections.

Etymology

Borrowed from Scots foggie, fogie (noun), perhaps derived from Scots foggie (“covered with moss or lichen; mossy", hence "old, antiquated, decrepit”, adjective), from Scots fog (“moss; lichen”), equivalent to fog (“moss”) + -y. Further origin uncertain. More at fog.

Source: Wiktionary (CC BY-SA)

Related meanings

Synonyms fossil

In a sentence

I'm an experienced fogey in tiredness.
© tatoeba.org contributor cntrational (CC BY 2.0 FR)

Use FOGEY in a puzzle

As an opener, it rules out about 90.9% of possible answers.

Wordle status

A word can be a playable guess without being a possible answer.

Playable guess

Yes

Included in the Wordle guess list used by our tools.

Possible answer

No

The solver does not currently treat this as a possible answer.

Past Wordle answer

No completed appearance

No appearance in our globally completed history. A recent puzzle may still be live elsewhere.

The possible-answer list is the solver's current list and may change when Wordle adds new answers.

How FOGEY performs as a guess

Wordle accepts FOGEY as a guess, but the solver does not list it as a possible answer.

Played as an opener, it lands at least one colored tile in 81.5% of games, misses completely in 18.5%, and leaves about 217 possible answers on average.

In the previous complete opener benchmark, it ranks #10,059 of 14,855 openers, averaging 3.76 guesses in games solved within six turns.

Try your feedback pattern

Tap the tiles to match your feedback, then see the ranked follow-up guesses.

All gray? Tap a tile to cycle gray → yellow → green.

First-turn measures

All four describe FOGEY used as an opening guess. Entropy is the same idea as “avg ruled out” on a log scale: a higher number means the guess splits the possible answers into more, smaller groups.

4.35 Entropy (bits)
217 Avg remaining
0.0% Exact match
90.9% Avg ruled out

As an opening guess: previous benchmark

How FOGEY performed in the previous complete opener benchmark, against its captured answer snapshot. These research figures are separate from today's solver recommendations. See the data page for the method.

3.76 Avg guesses
99.96% Solved within six
0.71 Spread of game lengths
#10,059 Rank among openers
Opening with FOGEY left 1 of the snapshot's answers unsolved after six guesses. A spread of 0.71 means those games clustered within about 0.71 of a guess of the 3.76 average. It ranks #10,059 of 14,855 openers by average guesses in games solved within six.
1 guess
0
2 guesses
50
3 guesses
766
4 guesses
1,242
5 guesses
281
6 guesses
14

Composition

5/5 unique
2 vowels
Common:
EO

Feedback chances

Any hit (G/Y)
82%
Green tile
42%
All gray
18%

Feedback distribution

FOGEY can come back 84 different ways. These are the most likely, and how many of the possible answers give each one:

442 answers
415 answers
200 answers
193 answers
175 answers
110 answers
93 answers
68 answers
51 answers
49 answers
46 answers
42 answers
33 answers
32 answers
28 answers
24 answers
23 answers
20 answers
18 answers
18 answers
18 answers
16 answers
15 answers
15 answers
13 answers
13 answers
12 answers
11 answers
11 answers
10 answers

Letter-value totals

Base letter-value totals for FOGEY; these do not show whether either game accepts the word.

Scrabble

F4O1G2E1Y4
Total: 12 points

Words With Friends

Total: 12 points

Scores shown are base values without double/triple letter or word bonuses.

Strategy after playing FOGEY

What the solver recommends next for each way the board can respond to FOGEY.

Quick reference

Largest feedback groups after playing FOGEY:

19% chance
Suggested:
TRAIL
17% chance
Suggested:
SLART
8% chance
Suggested:
STAIR

Follow-ups for common patterns

Ranked follow-up guesses for the 10 most common feedback patterns.

18.5% →
TRAIL 6.07 bits
17.4% →
SLART 5.81 bits
8.4% →
STAIR 4.77 bits
8.1% →
ARSON 5.12 bits
7.3% →
SLART 4.74 bits
4.6% →
SHART 4.62 bits
3.9% →
SNARE 4.30 bits
2.9% →
RAILE 4.39 bits
2.1% →
SAINT 4.84 bits
2.1% →
SLART 4.10 bits

Research on FOGEY

Game-tree analysis and word research for FOGEY, with an explanation for each figure.

Optimal play

Opening with FOGEY, a proven-optimal strategy averages 3.76 guesses and ranks #8,623 of 14,855 legal openers. The best proven opener, TARSE, averages 3.55.

No guaranteed hard-mode solve In hard mode, no strategy that opens with FOGEY can guarantee a solve within six guesses.

Our six-turn simulation says 3.76, at or below the proven-optimal 3.76, because the two figures score different answer lists.

These figures come from exhaustive game-tree search and are exact for the NYT lists of July 2023 (3,158 answers). They do not use the site's working answer pool.

Familiarity and learning

Frequency
FOGEY sits in the rare band of the wordfreq scale, appearing less than once per million words of written English; the band marks it as a word few players will have met in print.

Sources: Optimal-play values: Alex Selby's exhaustive Wordle analysis (MIT); Word relations: Open English WordNet, 2025 edition (CC BY 4.0); Word frequency: wordfreq (data CC BY-SA 4.0).